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Chinese Type 85 Bayonet and Scabbard

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:23 pm
by Mr. B.
This is what is advertised as a Chinese Type 85 bayonet and scabbard. There is no verification that this bayonet was ever made for or issued to the Chinese military, (PLA). It appears to be an up-dated Chinese Type 81 bayonet that has been redesigned as a wire cutter and mounts on the Type 81 weapons. No documentation of the bayonet has been found but similar blades can be found in military pictures. The bayonet I received came in a fitted "presentation" type box and from all appearances seems to be non-military bayonet made for the collectors trade. The construction feels flimsy, especially the release catch which is almost toy like. Weak spring, small thin catch and machine screw that are not staked in place. No numbers or any type of marking. I purchased this item as a "representative" example and to find out what the small "lever" was on the back side of the scabbard cutter plate. It is a can opener! It is non-moving and is permanently held in place by rivets. Mike
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Re: Chinese Type 85 Bayonet and Scabbard

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:25 pm
by Mr. B.
More pictures. Mike
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Re: Chinese Type 85 Bayonet and Scabbard

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:28 pm
by Mr. B.
And here is the can opener! Mike
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Re: Chinese Type 85 Bayonet and Scabbard

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:45 pm
by ilian
For me it's simply a bad copy of the T87 experimental bayonet... seems to come from the same manufacturer than the T81 reproduction.

Re: Chinese Type 85 Bayonet and Scabbard

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:17 am
by mill_speer
ilian, I agree with you.

Unfortunately this is an imitation.: ((
Original it is a China M.87 multifunction bayonet.
That was built with many mistakes, deliberate or not!?
Also the designation "M.85" is not correct!
Who built it is unknown, I think in the Asian region.
Based on the very good workmanship, I'm typing on Vietnam.
To compare a original China M.87 from David's collection.
Best regards.

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Re: Chinese Type 85 Bayonet and Scabbard

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:26 pm
by Mr. B.
Good to hear from you Gerhard(?). I appreciate your input. I would like to see the picture, but unable to open them. Is there any way you can post them directly on this site? Thanks, Mike

Re: Chinese Type 85 Bayonet and Scabbard

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:36 pm
by Brian
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Re: Chinese Type 85 Bayonet and Scabbard

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:22 am
by RPBCPS
Can opener fitted on scabbard, they are spoiling their soldiers.

Back in my days, everyone in my unit carried a 'multitool' called an 'Opinel' lock knife, which did everything, including opening tin cans, a necessity most guys picked up in basic training.

Stay safe
Richard

Re: Chinese Type 85 Bayonet and Scabbard

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:53 pm
by Mr. B.
Back a little farther in my day we all carried a USGI P38 can opener from back in the 1940s. Always there just like the dog tags. Still have one on my key chains. Mike

Re: Chinese Type 85 Bayonet and Scabbard

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:52 pm
by MDIvie
I carry a P38 in the watch pocket of my jeans. Quit the key ring think when I ripped my leg open one day while pulling my keys out of my pocket in a hurry. I also keep the larger version of the P38 (forgot the designation) in my desk drawer at work.

Martin